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Fig. 1 Taken 27.9.2024 © H Morgan
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With the Long Lane area being surrounded by farms, a blacksmith was a necessity. A smithy is where a blacksmith works. It was in the smaller building on the photo. Here metal would have been heated up on a forge or hearth, hammered into shape and then cooled.
On the 1841 census the building was known as the “Long Lane Smithy”, and there was nothing between it and Bradshaw Hall Lane. The blacksmith was William Rowlinson who lived in a house with the smithy and garden. He lived there with his wife Hannah. Both were now aged 40. They had a large family. Sarah was 15, Peter 13, John 11, Frances 9, Samuel 7 and Amos who was 4. Also living there were Jonathan Parkinson aged 85 and John Parkinson aged 45 who was an agricultural labourer.
By the census of 1851 the sons had become blacksmiths themselves, whilst Amos was a scholar. Sarah may well have left to be married. John Parkinson, still an agricultural labourer was noted as a relative. A servant, Bethany Smith, also lived there. Then nothing else until Bradshaw Hall Lane again.
All change by 1861 as family members moved away to start families of their own. At “Manchester Road’s Long Lane Smithy” lived Samuel Rowlinson with his family. Wife Mary, 1 year old daughter Sarah Hannah and new baby Agnes, along with Francis Edward Walkley an 18 year old blacksmith’s apprentice. Father William and Mother Hannah, along with their youngest son Amos and his wife and their new baby, had all moved in together further along Long Lane towards the School’s Hill area.
That is as near as I can place the building called The Blacksmith Arms beer house! I know that the Swan Beer Shop along Long Lane disappeared when Manchester Royal Lunatic Asylum (Cheadle Royal) arrived in 1848. This beer house building was next door to Charles Hankinson senior, who was farming at Highfield farm. Perhaps then it was part of a farm building, somewhere around there?
In 1869 William died and Amos as head of the family changed the name to the Royal Oak by 1871. His mother Hannah moved out to Collyhurst Street in Manchester with her daughter Frances, who had married James Broughton. Amos died in February 1876, aged just 39.
Back at our smithy, Samuel now a “master blacksmith” and his wife Mary had added more children to their family. Sarah was now 11 and Agnes 10. Then there was Arthur Oswald 9, Ada Alice 5, Walter 3, Charles 2 and new baby Gertrude. Business was probably brisk as there were still many farms around, plus the huge Asylum estate and not forgetting Bruntwood Hall estate nearby, that was also breeding horses and had its own farm. By 1881 the older sons, Arthur and Walter were now blacksmith’s apprentices. On the census an unmarried 21 year old daughter Annie has been registered, perhaps she was Sarah Ann as the age is the same? Agnes is not recorded. Charles and Gertrude were scholars and there were now two more daughters. Mary aged 7 and Effie aged 4.
All change to a new property by 1891. The smithy and forge were small and so possibly, with business booming, the Rowlinson family had moved to the corner of Finney Lane and utilised old farm buildings that stood there for the business. Samuel was now 58 and Mary 53. Arthur Oswald at the age of 29 was a widower and there was a granddaughter, 1 year old Charlotte, who may well have been Arthur’s child. The cruelty of these times recorded right there. Arthur and Charles are blacksmiths too. The two youngest daughters Mary and Effie are still at home. Effie was a dressmaker’s apprentice now.
The story of the post office and shop, next to the old smithy, begins with a branch of the Chantler Family. Chantler being a common family name in our area. In 1851 Alfred Chantler was a 2 year old living in Brown Edge (the house on the corner of Green Gables and Finney Lane). His father Josiah, born 1808 was a farmer and his mother was Ellen born 1807. Along with Alfred they had four more sons and three daughters. James 17, Charles 12, Joseph 10, Hannah 8, William 5, Ellen 4, Emma 3 and Alfred. It was a large house with a family of ten living there.
All change by the 1861 census. The family had moved to Long Lane. It gets tricky now. The property they were in was somewhere between Griffin Farm and Bradshaw Hall Lane. The properties have no house numbers and are all just Long Lane! On the census schedule the farm is number 37 and Bradshaw Hall Lane number 51. The smithy was number 52. Their house was numbered 43. Ellen was the head of the household although still recorded as married and not a widow. Son Thomas aged 23, who was not on the last census and Charles are both agricultural labourers. Daughter Hannah was a laundry maid and Alfred and Emma were scholars.
Father Josiah was farming 7 acres with his older widowed sister, Mary Bentley at a place called Wilds Tenement. This was further down Long Lane towards the School’s Hill area and numbered 61 on the schedule.
By 1871 Alfred had married Caroline and they were both 22. He was a house painter and decorator. Living with them was his 65 year old mother Ellen. The address on the census is “Turnpike Road Manchester and Wilmslow Long Lane.” Again, going off the schedule numbers, their house is numbered 39. Next door lived Charles Chantler, an agricultural labourer and his wife Matilda. He would be Alfred’s older brother. Younger brother Thomas was a boarder at schedule number 42 and was a gardener. Wherever these cottages were, there were 8 together, as in 1875 they were all put up for sale together.
Fig. 2 Alderley and Knutsford Gazette. 28th August 1875
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On the 1881 census they were probably in the same property. Here lived Alfred and Caroline with their children. Frank 7, Harold 3, Ellen Elizabeth 2, and newly born Beatrice Caroline Howe Chantler. Along the lane at house numbered 33 on the schedule was Charles, still an agricultural labourer and Matilda along with his older brother Thomas, who was still a gardener and had moved in with them.
At long last on the census of 1891, actual house numbers appeared and the name Long Lane had become Wilmslow Road. Number 141 was designated as a shop and 143 as a house. (Today there is no 143 Wilmslow Road, they are numbered 139 and 141, and 145 is the next cottage). Alfred’s occupation was now painter and grocer and Caroline was also recorded as a grocer. They had had more children. Frank now 17 was a warehouse clerk, Harold 13, Ellen 11, Beatrice 10 along with Thomas Henry 7, Edith Maria 5 and Alick Josiah aged 3. Number 139 the smithy, was uninhabited as the Rowlinson family had moved out.
The top photo shows the shop at 141 and the house at 143.
The bottom photo, taken September 2024 as a comparison, shows 139 and 141. The next cottage is 145.
Fig. 3 Wilmslow Road 1906
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Fig. 4 Taken Sept 2024
© H Morgan
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In 1896, Alfred ran for the District Council Nominations for the Cheadle and Gatley Ward.
However, by 1901 Alfred had died and so Caroline was now head of the household and a grocer shop keeper. She lived there with two sons who were working. Frank now a 27 year old draper’s warehouseman and 17 year old Thomas who was a joiner’s apprentice. Also in the house were school children 15 year old Edith, 14 year old Alec (now spelt that way) and another daughter 7 year old Gladys.
The 1911 census had a change of format. Number 141 was recorded as having six rooms. Caroline, now 62, was a provision dealer assisted by daughter Gladys now 17. Also living there were Edith now 24 and 23 year old Alec Josiah who was an architect’s assistant. Next door at number 145, in five rooms lived her son Frank, a mercantile clerk and his family. Wife of five years Christina and their sons, 5 year old Alfred Oswald and 2 year old Frank Gerald.
Another son Thomas Henry had married Florence Mabel Paxton in Stockport in 1909. For details of his WW1 service, I have Hazel and Paul Crofton of St Catherine’s Church to thank for their amazing and diligent research into the names on our war memorial. He was assigned to the Royal Engineers, no doubt being able to use his joinery skills, as his unit moved around the theatres of war in the Salonika region of Greece attached to various divisions of the British Army. An engineer’s role was to keep the army moving forward constructing gun fortifications, maintaining the roads and a water supply for the troops. Sapper Chantler, 67016, was with the 131st Field Company Royal Engineers, 26th Division. He would have carried a rifle as an infantryman. At the age of 33 he would succumb to either wounds or illness, sadly and ironically after Armistice Day. He died on December 11th 1918 and was buried in the Mikra British Cemetery in Kalamaria, Greece. His name was also engraved onto the headstone of his parents’ grave at the Long Lane Chapel on Wilmslow Road (now the United Reformed Church.)
I find it terribly sad that all these young men who lived on Long Lane, went to war and never returned. They would have grown up together as children and teenagers, and they lived in a tight knit community. Sadness would befall many families along Wilmslow Road. Indeed, the two Ambrose brothers that died lived just across the road. Chantler Close, on the Bloor housing estate along Wilmslow Road, is named to remember Thomas.
On the 1921 census Caroline and Frank had swapped houses. Frank’s schedule had number 141 Wilmslow Road originally that was altered to 143. At 47, Frank was now the grocer in the family business, and the shop was also a sub post office. His wife Christina and their two sons were still there living in the six rooms. At number 145 Caroline, now 72, was doing home duties. Daughter Gladys at 27 years of age was a grocery assistant working for J Williams and Sons of Cheadle.
On June 5th 1934, Caroline died at 145 Wilmslow Road in her 87th year. She was buried at Long Lane chapel. Probate was granted in October 1934 to her three daughters.
The 1939 register recorded that the spinster sisters Ellen, Edith and Gladys lived at 145 Wilmslow Road. The older two, now in their late fifties, were doing unpaid domestic duties. The youngest, Gladys aged 46 was incapacitated. Next door at 143, the Buxton family had moved in. 61 year old William Buxton was the sub postmaster, grocer and newsagent. Edith his wife was doing unpaid domestic duties. Arthur Smedley was a commercial traveller for tobacco. Also, there were Kenneth and Ada Potts. He was a solicitor, bookkeeper and cashier and she was a general shop assistant in the post office. By the mid-1930s, a selection of shops had been built further along Wilmslow Road around Merwood Avenue, that would surely have caused some competition. It was said that you did not have to go anywhere else to buy what you needed along Long Lane. However, the post office was still there.
Into the 1940s and Mr Roylance was the postmaster.
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Fig. 5 The Ratepayers Association Review publication Sept 1947
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In the 1950s, the building was still a general store run by Hutchinson and Taylor as a newsagent, tobacconist, grocers and confectioners.
“Living at this end of Finney Lane, our local shop was the general store and post office opposite the Griffin on Wilmslow Road.”
- John Kemp, In conversation 2022
The road junction where the post office is sited, even back in April 1961, was causing concern. An article in The Advertiser exclaimed they wanted a warning! Apparently, drivers speeding around the bend, coming from Wilmslow, had to brake sharply once they saw the traffic lights. Not much has changed then ...
“My aunt’s family had it in the late 70s.”
- Janis Janski Pavey Facebook 2024
Fig. 6 Ratepayers Contact magazine, Autumn 1969
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I could not find a building application to confirm when the old smithy was once again used, as the applications can only go back to 1974. The original door to the shop would have been where the window is with the yellow flowers in it, when number 141 was the shop.
Fig. 7 Long Lane Post Office
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The photo is the image that most people seemed to remember. I certainly do from the 1980s. By the early 1990s, it was the one place that I would let my daughter go to on her own, to post a letter for me that meant she did not have to cross any roads. She would come back feeling very grown up at the age of 5 or 6!
“Before the big supermarkets appeared, my mum got most of the daily shopping from here when it was a Spar as well as a post office. Mr and Mrs Irvine ran a well-stocked grocers. I recall the original entrance door being to the right in this picture.”
- Si Boothman, Facebook 2024
“Aged about 9 or 10, I used to buy my mum’s cigs here, though they weren’t always for her. Then go up to the old greenhouses further up the road to smoke them (without really knowing how.) I remember Mr Irvine, tall bloke, but I also remember Mr Eagland, shorter bloke with grey hair and big glasses.”
- Tony Bayley, Facebook 2024
“Never went in but I remember the sign on the front in the 1960s reading “Maid Marian Foodstore.” Maid Marian was an inhouse brand from Danish Bacon Company and covered a range of food products. Shops selling the brand could opt for the external signage if they wished.”
- Graham Bloxsome, Facebook 2024
“Mr Irvine would always get cross with me as I turned up at 12.26pm on a Saturday afternoon, just before they closed and he was not impressed that I did it regularly. I was a teen and drawing out some money for the week ahead. Happy days.”
- Shirley Awan, Facebook 2024
“John and Jackie Irvine, mostly John, ran it. Jackie was a secretary at Cheadle Royal for many years. Brought back many memories of when I went to pick up my child allowance with friends from 1975.”
- Ann Park, Facebook 2021
“Mr Irvine was a kind man as I remember. Family allowance every week, then food shopping.”
- Joan Brooks, Facebook 2024
“At the tender age of 17, I used to take the takings from the petrol station on Wilmslow Road here, in a briefcase chained to my wrist.”
- Danny McCarthy, Facebook 2024
“I used to go and get my grandma’s pension and stamps from there.”
- Sarah Louise Jones, Facebook 2024
“Used to go in there in the 70s/80s for my family allowance.”
- Jean Cotterill, Facebook 2024
“I remember it well. Drew family allowance there in the 70s. I recollect a tall slim man. I think the front door of the building was where the daffs are in the window. Happy days.”
- Iris Thorley, Facebook 2024
“In the late eighties and early nineties, when I drank in the Griffin regularly, and the prices were still cheap, older people would go in there to cash their pension books and then come straight across the road to the pub.”
- Matthew Thompson, Facebook 2024
“My first job was in Handforth, so I used to call in there every morning for my newspaper in 1962.”
- William Longstaff, Facebook 2024
“John the postmaster was so friendly and always gave time to make people feel welcome.”
- Janet White, Facebook 2024
“My nana lived 3 doors down. I can picture John now in a brown knit V neck jumper.”
- Karen Millward, Facebook 2024
All was about to change when John Irvine announced his retirement in 1997.
Fig. 8 Stockport Express 12.2.1997
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Fig. 9 Stockport Express 25.6.1997
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Ironically, John would continue to help Saleem in his shop on the corner of Merwood Avenue for roughly another ten years.
John would continue to live at 141 Wilmslow Road and gained planning permission to revert the shop back to a residential property in September 1997. The whole building, containing 139, 141 and 143 Wilmslow Road, all became number 141.
The cottages to each side being 137 and 145.
Fig. 10 Number 141 Wilmslow Road
© Google Maps April 2009
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The whole property was put up for sale in 2018. In 2019 a radical application, DC/073444, was submitted to demolish the old smithy, to make an access route for car parking at the rear and turn the rest into a property of eight bedrooms for up to ten people. Permission was refused.
A new application, DC/079995, went to the council in 2021 for a partial change of use, to create a new two bedroom dwelling and this was granted in May 2022 to Armadillo Property Services. Sadly, the old Long Lane sign ended up in a skip but was eventually replaced with a new one. There are now two front doors here. Number 139 is back along with 141.
Thank you to everyone who has helped me timeline these properties.
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